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Chandra
Bhushan - Associate Director
Industry & Environment
Chandra
Bhushan just passed his engineering in Ahmedabad in 1993, when
Anil offered him work at CSE. Anil visited his institute for
a lecture. Till then, Anil never met Chandra Bhushan but a ten
minute chat at institute convinced Anil about abilities of Chandra
Bhushan & he is with CSE since then. Presently, Chandra is Associate
Director, Industry & Environment.
He looks after research work of Green Rating Project, a major
initiative of CSE, where CSE rates industries on basis of their
environment emissions.
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December
19, 2005
What
is unique about Green Rating Project?
GRP
is a pioneer effort & perhaps till date remains only project
where civil society rates industries. There was no rating, where
NGO rated industries on environment performance. An attempt
was made in USA, but that rating was done by commercial organisations.
And
there is huge difference between ratings done commercially &
by NGOs. All commercial ratings are based on published reports
& other material given by company, whereas community ratings
depend upon primary survey & research. GRP was first rating,
where an inspector, we called him Green Inspector, went inside
company & gathered material. It was a voluntary rating as company
came forward & participated in it. It was also a public rating
as companies those did not participate were still rated. In
commercial ratings, only those companies were rated who wanted
so.
When
GRP was launched, were you sure of its success?
Not
at all. We expected it would take enormous time to gather information
as companies never gave information to government not least
to NGOs. Further, we not only asked information, we asked them
to allow us to enter factory & cross check information. When
we sent first letters inviting paper producing companies to
participate, no one turned up. It took almost a year to get
all companies on board. We waited for their response & also
started building information base on basis of secondary material.
We surveyed adjoining areas & gathered information. As we picked
momentum, everyone got on board. Once Paper rating was released
in 1999 & GRP flashed around, our credibility established. Everyone
realized we promoted good & pressurized bad companies.
GRP
is based on voluntary disclosure. Does not that leave a possibility
of fraud?
We
developed process in a way that it minimized possibility of
fraud. We prepared an elaborate & scientific questionnaire for
companies. Then we completed primary survey to verify information.
It was highly exhaustive process. There are few chances of wrong
information by companies, but cross checks were inherent in
our procedure.
Project
Advisory Panel comprises of big names. How often do they meet?
Does it hamper progress of GRP?
They
meet once before ratings are released. But, they are provided
& updated with information regularly. They have enough time
to review our reports & send suggestions. Before release of
ratings, Panel meets to clear ratings. However, while PAP exists
to release ratings; Technical Advisory Panel holds continuous
meetings to discuss upon findings.
So
far GRP has rated 3 industries, released 4 ratings & on 16th
Dec, we release rating of 4th industry, Cement industry. It
takes almost one & half year to rate 30-35 companies of an industry.
What
other challenges did you face in GRP? What perceptible change
do you witness after GRP?
Biggest
problem was to push industry. Rating was not an end in itself.
End was requisite changes in industrial atmosphere. During process
of rating, we undertake policy research to find drawbacks of
existing policy.
GRP
pioneered new thinking for regulation of industrial pollution.
GRP ensured that apart for profits, companies competed on environment
performance. It built a peer pressure amongst companies to gather
environment credentials.
Secondly,
there is a base line environment performance that every company
is expected to achieve. Before GRP, base line was never realized.
After GRP, achieving of this base line became critical. It built
pressure on poor companies to improve. As became clear in second
rating of Paper industry in 2004, several companies improved
their standards, which performed poorly in first rating of 1999.
There was greater awareness about chemical problems, water management.
These five years witnessed huge changes in Paper industry.
What
is the criterion to select a particular industry?
Our
idea is to select a mainstream sector & where pollution is a
concern. For instance, we took cement industry as cement is
a polluting sector, there was a huge expansion in cement industry
& multinationals came in. We take large scale companies only.
Rating is a reputation tool & therefore for big companies it
counts more than any small company.
Which
industry you take next?
Power
or Iron & Steel.
What
is the status of Polluter Pays Principle in India, where polluting
companies are asked to compensate society?
Incidentally, Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled in its favor.
Absolutely
nothing. It is a mere imaginary policy. Government has no backbone
to implement it. Polluter Pays Principle becomes effective if
we have coherent policy to combat environment hazards. No such
policy exists today. In fact, with current economic boom, government
sees environment as a hindrance. Draft environment policy says
everything but it has no provision to implement these. In fact,
we do not price even our natural resources well. We have no
policy for ground water use, for right price of water.
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Ashutosh Bhardwaj
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