
The Making of a Myth
You may term it a hare-brained idea for a visually impaired
person to be inspired by Denis Lilly. That he wants to bowl
as fast as the legendry Australian pace bowler & send batsman
to hospital. Equally chimerical you may find a legally blind
person to say that he goes to the cinema every week, if possible
Friday evening itself to see the latest released film.
George Abraham, however, defies all familiar notions. A legally
blind and a fast bowler, he did send batsman limping & later
organised Cricket World Cup for Blind. Like a professional critic,
he analyses a movie thread-bare. His enormous interest for cinema
can leave you wondering when he says that his enjoyment level
of watching is a movie is nowhere lesser than a person with
normal vision.
To say that he, who lost his optic nerves and retina at the
age of ten months to meningitis, defied all odds is too little
a phrase. He actually never believed in odds. He lives as natural
a life as anybody does. After schooling at various top schools,
he completed Mathematics Honors & Post Graduation in Operation
Research from St Stephens College.
An Ashoka Fellow, he loves detective novels, especially of Robert
Ludlum & John Grisham and has immense interest in music-Beatles,
Bob Dylon, Gazals, Mehandi Hasan, Ghulam Ali, Kishore Kumar
amongst others.
In
an extremely candid interview, he spoke out of his heart to
Ashutosh Bhardwaj. Indeed, this reporter was repeatedly mesmerized
at him-his coherency, argumentativeness, amiability & ambitions.
Though he denies mythical proportion being attached to persons
of extraordinary abilities, yet, the only epithet this reporter
could think of him is- Mythical.
Presently
he is CEO of Score Foundation, a Delhi based NGO. He also runs
Eyeway-a one stop point for all the information related to the
visually impaired. He is also Chairman of ACBI( Association
of Cricket for Blind in India).
He
loves oratory & dreams of anchoring a TV program.
Your
site proposes- Disability is God given but a handicapped is
man made. How can a visually impaired be prevented from becoming
a handicapped?
Not
being able to see is outside your control. It could be due to
an accident, certain illness or genetic disorders. However,
if parents do not send such child to school and he remains uneducated,
that is a man made situation. A person, during his growth as
a human being goes to schools & colleges & opts for
a professional career.
However,
parents of a disabled person ignore basic growth landmarks of
that kid. He is not sent to a regular school, he is kept aside
& as a result his whole growth process is slowed down. Finally
instead of a professional career, he is forced to do some kind
of vocational training programs like cane chair making and candle
making, which have limited commercial options today.
Not given the growth opportunity & then suddenly thrown
out in this competitive world, he doesn't stand a chance.
You organize a conference for visually disabled & all the
presentations are given in Power Point, which means you are
excluding him as he can't see those presentations. But if you
provide him necessary material, he would be a part of the proceedings.
He
is handicapped because of exclusion & lack of accessible
material, which is a human made condition. You create a building
with narrow doors & a person on wheel chair can't get into
the room.
It
is probably the persons who construct these buildings or organised
a conference have never experienced disability. They have their
own perspective.
You
are right. Each person, including a visually impaired has his
own perspective. We, human beings tend to be exclusive, do not
think about others. People are not aware, they may not be insensitive,
but they are not sensitized to the needs of others. That's why
one talks of universal design-be it a product, process or space-which
suits all.
I
would say not thinking about the disabled is another kind of
fundamentalism. It may not be like religious fundamentalism,
but it operates to offend interests of disabled.
Well,
I don't say so. It's not fundamentalism. People do not do it
deliberately. People are either unaware of it or they do not
attach too much importance to it, never realizing that a disabled
is also a human being, he can perform like anybody else if given
opportunities & an enabling environment.
Ved
Mehta, a visually impaired writer had some tremendous abilities.
He could write about "yellow mustard flowers", "scarlet
flame of forests". For me, it's magical. Mythical. Is it
normal with each visually impaired or Mehta has some inherent
abilities?
Well,
visually impaired people are people as anybody else. There are
some outstanding people; there are some not so outstanding people.
Being visually impaired doesn't straightaway follow that he
has an outstanding memory or mythical powers. It's quite possible
that some people have highly evolved senses.
Ved
Mehta had some vision when he was a kid. He lost his eyes when
he was five-six year old. He had some vision memory, which he
would have retained. He would have been reading & hearing
other people's work. It need not have been an extra sensory
perception that he displays in his descriptions. It's quite
possible that he went with his wife somewhere, who described
it to him & he used it later.
It's possible today my wife appreciates a red rose before me
& tomorrow I may write an article about the beauty of red
rose.
People
belonging to non-blind world find it extraordinary, but for
me it's absolutely natural.
It
is said that if God snatches away one ability, it gives you
another in abundance to compensate for the other. Is it the
case with persons like Mehta or Hindi poet Surdas-who despite
being visionless wrote extraordinary poems full of colorful
imagery?
It's
true, but it's not something mythical, it's a reality. When
you can't see, you tend to rely on other senses. A person with
proper vision does not use his hearing or smelling powers very
much, whereas survival of a visually impaired depends on what
he hears or feels. Therefore, he has to develop those skills.
I
had a tremendous memory for telephone numbers till I got this
software for reading out the numbers. Since then, I started
using my phone book & stopped remembering phone numbers.
How
do you estimate present number of visually impaired in India?
The
numbers are debated. According to an estimate, 14 million are
totally blind, another 28 million have low vision.
What
is the criterion for low vision?
Anybody
who has less than 6/18 has low vision. Legally blind people
are those who have less than 6/60. What a normal eye sees at
sixty meters, these people will see at six meters. Normal vision
is 6/6.
It
means a legally blind person also has some vision.
Right.
Even a legally blind may have some vision, he may see some shadows.
It's only for an absolute blind that vision doesn't exist at
all. For him, there is no shadow or even any black figure. Seeing
black is also seeing something. We wrongly say that at eyes
closed, we see nothing. With closed eyes we see black. A totally
blind, whereas, doesn't see anything at all.
A 6/60 person would have some amount of vision, but when it
comes to cross a road or read a book, it becomes difficult for
him.
It
becomes impossible then.
I
wouldn't say impossible. Everything is possible. Even a totally
blind person crosses a road. What is normal to me may not be
normal to you.
We
were talking about status of visually impaired in India. How
do you find it?
Eighty
percent of the blindness in India is due to cataract, an age
related phenomenon. These can be treated, which still leaves
other blinds at 3-4 million & that's a large number.
There
is a terrible lack of resources for treatment of blind people
in India, especially in remote areas. Resources tend to be concentrated
in urban centers. To get same facilities, a person from Jharkhand
has to travel miles, whereas someone from Tamilnadu need not
have to.
India
also has limited resources for treatment & rehabilitation
of these people. There is no reason why totally blind people
shouldn't go to mainstream schooling. With the help of technology,
blind people can study in regular schools. There is no need
for separate blind schools.
Special schools are surely required for multiple disabled or
severely disabled or mentally challenged but not for merely
visually impaired. With blind children in schools, other children
also become sensitive. They learn to cope with them.
It
then becomes a richer & inclusive learning.
Absolutely.
It helps impaired person dream of mainstream. Other people learn
to give you space & accommodate you. I did combined study
with my friends. I would understand concepts quicker & I
would be explaining them.
I
once visited a school for visually impaired at Kingsway Camp
Delhi. Students told me about prevalent physical abuse not just
by teachers but by seniors themselves.
Visually
impaired are as vulnerable as anybody else. They are as human
as anybody else. Their instincts & urges are normal like
anybody. Homosexuality is human. Blind have no outlets to express
their feeling & you tend to notice it there more.
If
they were in a normal school, probably such incidents may not
have happened to this extent.
Yeah,
then they would have the opportunity to interact with girls
& other students & there would be outlets to express
their feelings.
With
Mathematics honors, how did you come to this sector?
I
worked with advertising world till 1989. I visited a blind school
for the first time in 1989. I was quite shocked at the quality
of education. I found people with better eyesight than me languishing.
I felt of being lucky that my parents provided me good education.
I
decided to work for them. Later I saw some blind boys playing
cricket in Dehradun. Eventually cricket for blinds was the first
project I took up. I organised a national tournament, which
became an annual feature. I was elected the Chairperson of World
Blind Cricket Council. India hosted Blind World Cups in 1998
& 2002 & I was instrumental in organizing the event.
Cricket!
You have interest in cricket?
Enormous.
I dreamt of being Dennis Lilly. My sole aim then was to bowl
as fast as I could. I could only see the shadows of batsman
at other end. My aim was either to send him to hospital or pavilion.
Of course, I was inspired by Jeff Thompson & Denis Lilly,
who sent many English batsmen to hospitals.
Did
you actually pack someone to hospital?
Not
to hospital, but I did send people limping.
We
human beings are by nature interdependent. We need help of others
to survive. What is the nature of help a visually disabled require?
If
this world is designed with fairness in terms of architecture
& information flow then a blind person is as independent
or dependent as anybody else. But because of the limiting factors
& lack of facilities, he becomes more dependent. For instance,
earlier it was difficult for a blind to get a ticket at reservation
counter or perform banking operations. Today with access to
computer, he can do many things.
Dependence
also depends on socio-cultural environment. A healthy, able
bodied person from a remote town would found himself totally
dependent on others once he enters Delhi. Lots of independence
comes from training & training. It is not disability per
se which actually creates dependency. It is lack of exposure
& facility. Since disabled are usually neglected & rarely
given exposure, they appear more dependent.
You
have succeeded immensely in public life. I am sure there have
been some moments of depression in your life.
Certainly
I have had depressing moments, but I have had the mind set to
carry on, leaving such moments behind.
What
kept you moving forward?
My
dreams & ambition, which keep me going. As a child, I had
three broad desires-first, I wanted to be a fast bowler like
Denis Lilly. Second, I wanted to be a singer like Kishore Kumar.
Third, I wanted to be an orator & communicator like Amitabh
Bachhan. Of course, I have not followed their foot steps in
traditional sense of the word, but I have followed the three
lines in the sense that I have been involved with promoting
cricket & music & musicians with blinds. I have been
promoting communication through Eyeway.
What
are your pleasant memories? What do you do in spare time?
Organizing
the First Blind World Cup was a great feeling. The entire thing
was planned, conceived & directed by me.
I
regularly go with my family to watch movies. We see a movie
every week, if possible, Friday evening itself. Last Friday
we saw Saawariya.
How
did you find Saawariya?
I
wouldn't rate it a great film. But it wasn't a bad film either.
Probably, the hero of the film was the director himself-Sanjay
Lila Bhansali. He was so caught up with the process & technology
that he neglected the story. A good film is where a story is
told well.
How
do you enjoy a movie, which is a visual phenomenon? Do you think
your level of enjoyment is lesser compared with a person of
vision?
The enjoyment level is probably the same. The antennas of receiving
the content & flavour of a movie are different. I get greater
enjoyment through my ears. The enjoyment of my wife and kids
and many others is more visual.
Of course, I can't enjoy silent movies or movies with greater
camera work and fewer dialogues.
How
do you enjoy cricket?
Lot
through audio. But sometimes through actual watching also. When
there is something interesting, I get very close to TV.
Thanks
a lot Mr Abraham. It was a wonderful talking to you. I believe
it will go down in my journalistic career as one of the most
memorable interviews I ever had. Thank you so much once again.
Ashutosh
Bhardwaj
Nov 2007
New
Delhi
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